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In the earnings call for Q4 FY 2025-26, management provided an optimistic outlook, projecting a stable growth trajectory amid current market conditions. They have set a volume growth guidance of approximately 15% for the upcoming fiscal year. The EBITDA growth is anticipated to align with this volume increase, also at 15%.

Management highlighted significant financial achievements, noting a 46% increase in turnover for Q4, amounting to INR 1,226.39 crores, compared to INR 839.65 crores in Q4 FY 2024-25. They reported an EBITDA of INR 193.76 crores (up 16%), a profit before tax of INR 123.1 crores, and a net profit of INR 114.53 crores (up 12%). For the full year, turnover was INR 4,465.80 crores, representing a 43% increase.

Management also addressed the stability of green coffee prices, explaining that current Brazilian crop forecasts could contribute to softer pricing in the coming months. Challenges such as the Middle East crisis were acknowledged but deemed manageable, with no anticipated significant disruption.

On the operational front, they reported a healthy balance sheet with net debt reduced to around INR 1,073 crores, down by more than INR 750 crores from the previous year, and a debt-to-equity ratio of 0.5.

Lastly, they noted plans to focus on bolstering brand presence in the domestic market, with aspirations for growth in the D2C segment, indicating that approximately 20% to 25% of sales are now coming from online channels. The management remains committed to navigating the challenges while pursuing growth opportunities in existing and new markets.

Here are the major questions asked during the Q&A session of the earnings call transcript, along with detailed answers provided by the management:

Question 1: "What would be our volume growth for the quarter? Also has the EBITDA per kg come down to a level of about 130, which is a bit down sequentially from maybe the 140 we saw in the previous quarter? What is driving the strong realizations on the top line?"

Answer: Our volume growth for the quarter has been around 18-20%. EBITDA per kg did see a slight drop due to the mix of coffee sold, particularly with less high-margin coffee compared to the previous quarter. However, on an annual basis, our EBITDA per kg has improved. The strong top-line growth is driven by a combination of volume increase and higher coffee prices.

Question 2: "So we have earlier given the guidance for 10% to 20% volume growth and maybe a 15% to 20% EBITDA growth. Anything changing for FY '27?"

Answer: We're maintaining our guidance for FY '27, projecting approximately 15% volume growth and corresponding EBITDA growth. The market has stabilized, and while noting some potential volatility, we feel confident in maintaining this guidance.

Question 3: "What is your outlook on the D2C business segment? Can that margin contraction be attributed entirely to coffee prices?"

Answer: Our D2C segment is performing well, contributing 20-25% to our sales. Regarding margins, there isn't a contraction per se; it appears so due to higher top-line numbers driven by coffee price increases. Our model allows for cost-plus pricing, which safeguards our margins amid price fluctuations.

Question 4: "On inventory days, do you see any further improvement if coffee prices remain stable or lower?"

Answer: Yes, we've seen improvements in inventory days due to better efficiency and lower coffee prices. However, we aren't committing to further reductions in inventory days as we will optimize as situations evolve.

Question 5: "Given strong cash flows from operations, how do you plan to utilize these funds regarding dividends, acquisitions, or debt reduction?"

Answer: While there's no immediate commitment, we are considering long-term debt reduction as a priority. We will also explore acquisition opportunities as they arise, focusing on maximizing stakeholder returns while supporting our growth needs.

Question 6: "What are the capacity utilization rates, and do you foresee the need for additional capacity?"

Answer: Currently, our capacity utilization is around 65%. We are well-positioned for the next two years without immediate needs for additional capacity expansion. If demand increases significantly, we may consider strategic options, including tie-ups, but we will closely monitor market conditions.

Question 7: "What is the expected tax rate, considering the operations in different regions, including Vietnam?"

Answer: Our average tax rate is around 17%, reflecting a mix of different entities with varying tax obligations. As we expand, this may fluctuate slightly, but we aim to maintain a stable rate.

Question 8: "Can you provide feedback on the Malgudi brand for snacks and its growth potential?"

Answer: The Malgudi snacks brand is receiving positive feedback, and we plan to expand its presence based on pilot results. We aim to launch broader categories shortly, enhancing our consumer business footprint.

These answers summarize the management's insights while maintaining the context and details presented during the call.